they DO look bored, especially ka & pr, who seemed like they wanted to be anywhere else but there. cc was trying to give off some good chemistry looks though. whatever, is this supposed to encourage people to watch?
Was it me but I never could buy Carly would be into Bo. I thought she was a poor Hope clone. But Hope had Doug for a father, so though she was the rich girl she was not blue blood. Carly despite disavowing her family was still the aristocrat and never seemed to be realistically someone who would want a Bo. And in the end she went with Lawrence, despite all he did, but someone of her same aristocratic class.
I always thought Bo and Carly were about the sex, and that was it. Not romance, or having mutual tastes or interests.
I haven't watched Days since the 1980s. I was a huge Bope fan back then. While watching this promo, I was too shocked by KA's skeletal appearance to notice its lameness. What happened to KA? Does she have an eating disorder? Whatever the story, it's a pity because she was so beautiful back in the day.
The most boring promo i've ever seen. Kristian & Peter look like someone draged them to the set against their wishes. Crystal in trying to look more alive, but she did a poor job at it. And this is supposed to encourge viewers to tune in? They should have put clips of Carly's first run in to the promo and maybe some new ones too. anything is better than this.
Good Lord, that was bad, really bad, like embarassing bad, how is this crap supposed to entice people to watch. Days is doomed if this is a preview of what is to come.
Wow. The return of CC really is a threat to some, isn't she. The quality of the voice over was poor. I think the actors looked fine. Bo and Carly were hot. PR and CC had amazing chemistry and it is apparently scaring the heck out of some KA fans. I think it will be good for all the actors involved. Carly may have been an aristocrat but she was never a spoiled brat who thought she was too good for Bo. Hope's denigration of Bo as a person has been going on for years. It will be nice to see a woman challenge her so called "love" for Bo since with Hope it's all about her......and Bo being her whipping boy.
Carly last I checked ran off with the man who tried to repeatedly kill Bo, and who also tried to kill her best friend, Jennifer, and who tried to kill her brother. So much for someone who is not spoiled or selfish.
And sorry, but I found it ridiculous that someone like Carly would settle fora working class guy like Bo.
As for bitter Hope fans, seems like it is the CC fans who are the vicious ones.
And no, though I like Bo and Hope, when they were on first I much preferred Roman and Marlena -- but only Wayne's version -- and then my real favorites were Kim and Shane.
I hated Carly yes, because she was Miss Perfect, yet she was a liar who in the end ran off with the man she whined to everyone to protect her from.
"As for bitter Hope fans, seems like it is the CC fans who are the vicious ones."
Sadly, I have to agree, especially when any overzealous fans come running in looking for an argument when there is none. Like PR and KA, CC had absolutely nothing to do with the production, direction, or shooting of this promo. Yet, just because she is in it, anyone who doesn't think it is beyond spectacular must stand in line for their reprimand of daring to think otherwise. It is this kind of mentality that worries me, though. Various boards are getting bombarded with 'Carly' fans, who are apparently convinced that her return will save 'Days', and the ratings will reach heights never seen before, simply because she is now on the show. I cannot help but wonder if some of those fans will continue to hold on to that blind faith by the time Tomlin and Higley get done with their storytelling. Crap writing is crap writing. Crap directing is crap directing, and crap production is crap production, no matter who's on the screen. Maybe Tomlin got this right. If 'Carly' fans are willing to cry 'agenda', sing praises, and give unfaltering dedication, whether served crap (like this promo) or caviar, he will definitely go home smiling. Who needs quality, history, and continuity when you've got fans who will not only take, but praise, anything you dish out? Yep, Tomlin might have just gotten something right.
The incipient war between Hope fans and Carly fans is ridiculous. If the storyline is well written, KA and CC will both benefit, as will PR and WK. The promo is crap but I'm far more concerned about the writing. I can't say I'm impressed by the show's current storylines.
I just meant that I see people bashing KA's looks and the same ones are gushing about CC's return. But I watched and I was on the boards from 1987 onward, and thus on the boards in 91 and fans hated Carly because of the reasons I mentioned, she was so perfect, she was in every story and she was everyone's best friend, not to mention she specialized in every form of medicine. Yet, she lied to everyone about getting Jennifer in danger, using Bo and willing going to sacrifice him for François (Frankie). Then she leaves with the man who tried to kill half of Salem, including her brother.
If CC was so wonderful why couldn't GL even garner 2.0 viewers? DOOL only has one couple from the past who actually was a supercouple, and finally for the past couple of years they were not broken up or put with other stupid pairings, and now that is what is going to happen -- Corday said as much, Carly is there for a triangle.
But then what I read it is typical bad management from Zucker, NBC's head. He went with 5 nights of Leno because it was cheap, he is even stating that even with mediocre ratings that this is far cheaper than having five scripted dramas on at 10PM. That mentality says it all, he is out for cheap and not quality. And that is the mentality which NBC is forcing on DAYS, cheap, and no care if the acting is mediocre or poor, and definitely no care about the standard of writing and production.
Unless someone fires Zucker NBC will continue to be in the basement with its primetime. And Zucker is the one who seems to hate soaps, and if he has to have them to make them as cheap as possible, and accepting poor quality soaps -- as he seems to be favoring for primetime. Another thing, if Zucker continues to undermine NBC's primetime the network will not be making money from ads and thus will not have the money to spend on a soap which it does not own. NBC needs someone committed towards quality. From an article I read, NBC will have only EIGHT scripted shows on primetime, while CBS has SIXTEEN. Only the CW has EIGHT, and they do not have a 10PM hour (and I believe do not have a Sunday and/or Saturday line-up). Without someone who cares for quality there will be no one forcing Corday to save DAYS and hire talent and those actors the fans want, and also there will not be the money from primetime to do so.
I was online from 1989 on and the only hate I saw for Carly was from diehard Dee fans who said there was a backstage problem...don't know, didn't care. And KA fans who hated Bo getting a new pairing, some who would have rather seen PR out of work than dare be with paired with another actress. It is as sad and close minded then as it is now.
For the regular fans, there was the same kind of distribution for Carly as for any other character. Some loved her, some hated her. She was not any better or any worse in fan support than Dee, KA or MR. She had fans. She had haters. But she is a good actress....and has been acknowledged as such by the industry and her peers. I think this will be good for all of the actors involved but no doubt the insecure fans of one actor will be trashing her no matter what.
I was a huge Bope fan in the '80s. I bailed on DOOL after KA left. I'm also a big fan of CC's Olivia on Guiding Light. I've been catching up with Carly 1.0 on You Tube in preparation for CC's return. I'm struck by the strides she's made as an actress since her Carly days. She did a credible job with Carly, but I find the character bland and boring compared to Olivia.
CC didn't save Guiding Light because no single actor can or should be expected to save a show. With disasters like soap-killer Ellen Wheeler and Barbara Bloom at the helm and the implementation of its horrific new production model, Guiding Light's fate was sealed.
The more I hear about Zucker and Corday, the less optimistic I feel about DOOL's prospects.
I think since this is supposedly the fall storyline that will save DAYS, the promo should have been a little longer...maybe with some flashback scenes.
I'm for anything that gets BOPE out of their staleness. If it takes Carly to do it, then I'm for it. But I agree that the writing and direction has to be there to make this work. If there's anything DAYS viewers should have learned from the past few years is that quality acting is only worth so much on this show, especially since it's often not even appreciated.
But the thing is stupid, you tell the fans that Matt, Missy, Stephen, Mary Beth, Drake, Dee, Thaao and Leann are not important the show goes on, then you bring back an actress which was not nearly as popular and who did not have the history these actors had, nor the fans, and then say SHE IS GOING TO SAVE THE SHOW. I really do not see her fan base as large as the morons at DAYS believe, and there are more Bope fans who are tired of having their characters thrown in relationships and not being happy. Reading what is going on the reason for Bo and Hope breaking up is forced, sloppy writing and ridiculous. You cannot destroy and fire all the supercouple actors, have only one remaining and then break them up in a poorly written manner, only to have them part of some convoluted geometric shape just like all the other bed hopping characters polluting this show. It is all trashy sex with no substance. And I seriously doubt that CC is going to push for Bo and Carly, it is more than suspecious that she agrees to return to the show and Michael is also rehired, I think she believes she can pull her weight and get a Katerina and Lawrence pairing, and knowing the morons in charge they probably will go that route throwing bot Peter and Kristian under the proverbial bus. Because it is not about DAYS' past but pushing a new soap with actors from failed soaps.
CC is coming back to the show because in the 90's she was to some a popular character, and she's cheap simple as that. She's cheaper than Drake and Dee and is coming from a relatively liked storyline on GL so Days is hoping she brings ratings. I don't see the problem because I loved Carly I enjoyed that she was everyones best friend every show has to have one of those characters and there usually loved by some and hated by others (emily on GH comes to mind...course shes dead now) I'm excited because I honestly never really liked Bope. I like the separately but not together.
Crystal Chappell won't save DAYS because my prediction is she's just going to phone in all her acting for the big paychecks. Everything she twitters and interviews about has to do with Otalia and VENICE. That is where she is invested. If DAYS couldn't work with the great vets that they had two years ago, they're not going to make gold out of these 90s characters that weren't all that great to begin with.
CC never phoned it on on Guiding Light (despite some crappy writing her character was subjected to over the years), and I'd be shocked if she did so on DOOL. Professional integrity aside, she's too smart to diss the one show that's paying her a salary. Otalia is over and she won't earn a penny from Venice. I'm just sorry she didn't land on the better-written OLTL or Y&R because the current DOOL is dreadful.
Yeah really the idea that CC would phone anything in is pretty silly. She's had some real crap storylines on GL and never done that. As for twittering about GL and Otalia - well come on the show is ending this week! That's what folks are talking about. She's mentioned DOOL in all of her interviews about the ending of GL (and the start of Venice). This press cannot hurt DOOL! I think any expectation that she can save DOOL though is dumb. There is just no way she can do that - no one person could.
Yea I can't see Crystal phoning it in, she's had to deal with horrible storylines (juggling nun on OLTL anyone?) and made them work. Not to mention she always mentions that shes returning to DOOL when she does interviews so I would think TPTB would be happy about that. It is crazy to think she can "save" Days no actor or character can make or break a show its an ensemble.
I am a huge Bope fan since the beginning and a huge Otalia fan. I did not like Carly the first time around because they paired her with Bo too soon after Hope's "death". I am excited about CC coming back because it will give KA and PR some juicy story. They have such great chemistry and they have been backburner for too long. CC has chemistry with everyone so maybe they can pair her with someone else. As far as KA's looks, she is a bit skinny but she is beautiful always. This promo does not do any of them any justice. It needy to be more interesting.
I'm all about 'creative expression', but in all honesty, that sucked. Is this the best they can do with the promos now? If so, heaven help us all.
ReplyDeletelol It totally sucked.
ReplyDeleteThat wasn't good stuff.
ReplyDeletethere seemed to be a compitition going on between who could give off the most boring vibe; the actors or the announcer.
ReplyDeletethey DO look bored, especially ka & pr, who seemed like they wanted to be anywhere else but there. cc was trying to give off some good chemistry looks though. whatever, is this supposed to encourage people to watch?
ReplyDeleteAhh for the glory days of the 80's and early 90's. Justin should of been in that promo since right now he's more of a "threat" than Carly.
ReplyDeleteWas it me but I never could buy Carly would be into Bo. I thought she was a poor Hope clone. But Hope had Doug for a father, so though she was the rich girl she was not blue blood. Carly despite disavowing her family was still the aristocrat and never seemed to be realistically someone who would want a Bo. And in the end she went with Lawrence, despite all he did, but someone of her same aristocratic class.
ReplyDeleteI always thought Bo and Carly were about the sex, and that was it. Not romance, or having mutual tastes or interests.
I haven't watched Days since the 1980s. I was a huge Bope fan back then. While watching this promo, I was too shocked by KA's skeletal appearance to notice its lameness. What happened to KA? Does she have an eating disorder? Whatever the story, it's a pity because she was so beautiful back in the day.
ReplyDeleteThe most boring promo i've ever seen. Kristian & Peter look like someone draged them to the set against their wishes. Crystal in trying to look more alive, but she did a poor job at it. And this is supposed to encourge viewers to tune in? They should have put clips of Carly's first run in to the promo and maybe some new ones too. anything is better than this.
ReplyDeleteGood Lord, that was bad, really bad, like embarassing bad, how is this crap supposed to entice people to watch. Days is doomed if this is a preview of what is to come.
ReplyDeleteAre they trying to go for an SNL skit vibe? That's what it felt like. Especially that one weird look from CC standing behind the couch. WTF???
ReplyDeleteWow. The return of CC really is a threat to some, isn't she. The quality of the voice over was poor. I think the actors looked fine. Bo and Carly were hot. PR and CC had amazing chemistry and it is apparently scaring the heck out of some KA fans. I think it will be good for all the actors involved.
ReplyDeleteCarly may have been an aristocrat but she was never a spoiled brat who thought she was too good for Bo. Hope's denigration of Bo as a person has been going on for years. It will be nice to see a woman challenge her so called "love" for Bo since with Hope it's all about her......and Bo being her whipping boy.
Poorest excuse for a promo I have ever seen. And sorry, fut KA looks horrible. WTH happened to her anyway?
ReplyDeleteI didn't hardly even recognize KA when I first saw this!
ReplyDeleteCarly last I checked ran off with the man who tried to repeatedly kill Bo, and who also tried to kill her best friend, Jennifer, and who tried to kill her brother. So much for someone who is not spoiled or selfish.
ReplyDeleteAnd sorry, but I found it ridiculous that someone like Carly would settle fora working class guy like Bo.
As for bitter Hope fans, seems like it is the CC fans who are the vicious ones.
And no, though I like Bo and Hope, when they were on first I much preferred Roman and Marlena -- but only Wayne's version -- and then my real favorites were Kim and Shane.
I hated Carly yes, because she was Miss Perfect, yet she was a liar who in the end ran off with the man she whined to everyone to protect her from.
"As for bitter Hope fans, seems like it is the CC fans who are the vicious ones."
ReplyDeleteSadly, I have to agree, especially when any overzealous fans come running in looking for an argument when there is none. Like PR and KA, CC had absolutely nothing to do with the production, direction, or shooting of this promo. Yet, just because she is in it, anyone who doesn't think it is beyond spectacular must stand in line for their reprimand of daring to think otherwise. It is this kind of mentality that worries me, though. Various boards are getting bombarded with 'Carly' fans, who are apparently convinced that her return will save 'Days', and the ratings will reach heights never seen before, simply because she is now on the show. I cannot help but wonder if some of those fans will continue to hold on to that blind faith by the time Tomlin and Higley get done with their storytelling. Crap writing is crap writing. Crap directing is crap directing, and crap production is crap production, no matter who's on the screen. Maybe Tomlin got this right. If 'Carly' fans are willing to cry 'agenda', sing praises, and give unfaltering dedication, whether served crap (like this promo) or caviar, he will definitely go home smiling. Who needs quality, history, and continuity when you've got fans who will not only take, but praise, anything you dish out? Yep, Tomlin might have just gotten something right.
The incipient war between Hope fans and Carly fans is ridiculous. If the storyline is well written, KA and CC will both benefit, as will PR and WK. The promo is crap but I'm far more concerned about the writing. I can't say I'm impressed by the show's current storylines.
ReplyDeleteI just meant that I see people bashing KA's looks and the same ones are gushing about CC's return. But I watched and I was on the boards from 1987 onward, and thus on the boards in 91 and fans hated Carly because of the reasons I mentioned, she was so perfect, she was in every story and she was everyone's best friend, not to mention she specialized in every form of medicine. Yet, she lied to everyone about getting Jennifer in danger, using Bo and willing going to sacrifice him for François (Frankie). Then she leaves with the man who tried to kill half of Salem, including her brother.
ReplyDeleteIf CC was so wonderful why couldn't GL even garner 2.0 viewers? DOOL only has one couple from the past who actually was a supercouple, and finally for the past couple of years they were not broken up or put with other stupid pairings, and now that is what is going to happen -- Corday said as much, Carly is there for a triangle.
But then what I read it is typical bad management from Zucker, NBC's head. He went with 5 nights of Leno because it was cheap, he is even stating that even with mediocre ratings that this is far cheaper than having five scripted dramas on at 10PM. That mentality says it all, he is out for cheap and not quality. And that is the mentality which NBC is forcing on DAYS, cheap, and no care if the acting is mediocre or poor, and definitely no care about the standard of writing and production.
Unless someone fires Zucker NBC will continue to be in the basement with its primetime. And Zucker is the one who seems to hate soaps, and if he has to have them to make them as cheap as possible, and accepting poor quality soaps -- as he seems to be favoring for primetime. Another thing, if Zucker continues to undermine NBC's primetime the network will not be making money from ads and thus will not have the money to spend on a soap which it does not own. NBC needs someone committed towards quality. From an article I read, NBC will have only EIGHT scripted shows on primetime, while CBS has SIXTEEN. Only the CW has EIGHT, and they do not have a 10PM hour (and I believe do not have a Sunday and/or Saturday line-up). Without someone who cares for quality there will be no one forcing Corday to save DAYS and hire talent and those actors the fans want, and also there will not be the money from primetime to do so.
I'm not gushing over CC's return. I never liked her that much and think her return is not needed. However, I still think KA looks terrible.
ReplyDeleteI was online from 1989 on and the only hate I saw for Carly was from diehard Dee fans who said there was a backstage problem...don't know, didn't care. And KA fans who hated Bo getting a new pairing, some who would have rather seen PR out of work than dare be with paired with another actress. It is as sad and close minded then as it is now.
ReplyDeleteFor the regular fans, there was the same kind of distribution for Carly as for any other character. Some loved her, some hated her.
She was not any better or any worse in fan support than Dee, KA or MR. She had fans. She had haters. But she is a good actress....and has been acknowledged as such by the industry and her peers. I think this will be good for all of the actors involved but no doubt the insecure fans of one actor will be trashing her no matter what.
I was a huge Bope fan in the '80s. I bailed on DOOL after KA left. I'm also a big fan of CC's Olivia on Guiding Light. I've been catching up with Carly 1.0 on You Tube in preparation for CC's return. I'm struck by the strides she's made as an actress since her Carly days. She did a credible job with Carly, but I find the character bland and boring compared to Olivia.
ReplyDeleteCC didn't save Guiding Light because no single actor can or should be expected to save a show. With disasters like soap-killer Ellen Wheeler and Barbara Bloom at the helm and the implementation of its horrific new production model, Guiding Light's fate was sealed.
The more I hear about Zucker and Corday, the less optimistic I feel about DOOL's prospects.
I think since this is supposedly the fall storyline that will save DAYS, the promo should have been a little longer...maybe with some flashback scenes.
ReplyDeleteI'm for anything that gets BOPE out of their staleness. If it takes Carly to do it, then I'm for it. But I agree that the writing and direction has to be there to make this work. If there's anything DAYS viewers should have learned from the past few years is that quality acting is only worth so much on this show, especially since it's often not even appreciated.
I wonder if the promo was made in such darkness to disguise KA's gauntness and CC bursting out of her dress, LOL!
ReplyDeleteHonestly, they all look like they are in an antidepressent commercial.
ReplyDeleteBut the thing is stupid, you tell the fans that Matt, Missy, Stephen, Mary Beth, Drake, Dee, Thaao and Leann are not important the show goes on, then you bring back an actress which was not nearly as popular and who did not have the history these actors had, nor the fans, and then say SHE IS GOING TO SAVE THE SHOW. I really do not see her fan base as large as the morons at DAYS believe, and there are more Bope fans who are tired of having their characters thrown in relationships and not being happy. Reading what is going on the reason for Bo and Hope breaking up is forced, sloppy writing and ridiculous. You cannot destroy and fire all the supercouple actors, have only one remaining and then break them up in a poorly written manner, only to have them part of some convoluted geometric shape just like all the other bed hopping characters polluting this show. It is all trashy sex with no substance. And I seriously doubt that CC is going to push for Bo and Carly, it is more than suspecious that she agrees to return to the show and Michael is also rehired, I think she believes she can pull her weight and get a Katerina and Lawrence pairing, and knowing the morons in charge they probably will go that route throwing bot Peter and Kristian under the proverbial bus. Because it is not about DAYS' past but pushing a new soap with actors from failed soaps.
ReplyDeleteCC is coming back to the show because in the 90's she was to some a popular character, and she's cheap simple as that. She's cheaper than Drake and Dee and is coming from a relatively liked storyline on GL so Days is hoping she brings ratings. I don't see the problem because I loved Carly I enjoyed that she was everyones best friend every show has to have one of those characters and there usually loved by some and hated by others (emily on GH comes to mind...course shes dead now) I'm excited because I honestly never really liked Bope. I like the separately but not together.
ReplyDeleteMichael is going to be recurring with only a few scenes show. He's not going to be a regular character probably only in flashbacks.
ReplyDeleteThere is speculation that Lawrence is the victim of the murder Carly 2.0 committed, hence the flashbacks.
ReplyDeleteAfter the horrible treatment of Stephen Nichols and Mary beth and the audience I WILL NOT BE WATCHING DAYS AGAIN.
ReplyDeleteCARLY IS NOT WORTH TUNING IN FOR.
THE VETS WERE.
NO MORE DAYS.
CORDAY TURNED ME TOTALLY OFF OF DAYS.
ReplyDeleteTHE TREATMENT OF VIEWERS AND VETS WAS DISGUSTING.
SO IS GARY TOMLIN'S PASSIONS ii PRETENDING TO BE DAYS.
NO MORE. CARLY SORRY GIRL NOT AT ALL INTERESTED
Crystal Chappell won't save DAYS because my prediction is she's just going to phone in all her acting for the big paychecks. Everything she twitters and interviews about has to do with Otalia and VENICE. That is where she is invested. If DAYS couldn't work with the great vets that they had two years ago, they're not going to make gold out of these 90s characters that weren't all that great to begin with.
ReplyDeleteCC never phoned it on on Guiding Light (despite some crappy writing her character was subjected to over the years), and I'd be shocked if she did so on DOOL. Professional integrity aside, she's too smart to diss the one show that's paying her a salary. Otalia is over and she won't earn a penny from Venice. I'm just sorry she didn't land on the better-written OLTL or Y&R because the current DOOL is dreadful.
ReplyDeleteYeah really the idea that CC would phone anything in is pretty silly. She's had some real crap storylines on GL and never done that. As for twittering about GL and Otalia - well come on the show is ending this week! That's what folks are talking about. She's mentioned DOOL in all of her interviews about the ending of GL (and the start of Venice). This press cannot hurt DOOL! I think any expectation that she can save DOOL though is dumb. There is just no way she can do that - no one person could.
ReplyDeleteYea I can't see Crystal phoning it in, she's had to deal with horrible storylines (juggling nun on OLTL anyone?) and made them work. Not to mention she always mentions that shes returning to DOOL when she does interviews so I would think TPTB would be happy about that. It is crazy to think she can "save" Days no actor or character can make or break a show its an ensemble.
ReplyDeleteI am a huge Bope fan since the beginning and a huge Otalia fan. I did not like Carly the first time around because they paired her with Bo too soon after Hope's "death". I am excited about CC coming back because it will give KA and PR some juicy story. They have such great chemistry and they have been backburner for too long. CC has chemistry with everyone so maybe they can pair her with someone else. As far as KA's looks, she is a bit skinny but she is beautiful always. This promo does not do any of them any justice. It needy to be more interesting.
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